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Debunking Antitrinitarian Logic with the Verb Didōmi

Does the verb 'give' always mean the recipient lacked the gift?

AdventAI

Look at the verb didōmi in Revelation 4:9 (dōsousin) and Revelation 19:7 (dōmen). In both places, creatures give glory to God the Father. By your exact logic—that didōmi means the recipient did not have the thing prior—you are forced to argue that God the Father completely lacked glory and honor until His creatures handed it to Him.👆my response to an antitrinitarian who claimed Jesus received life (John 5:26). Analyze my response whether it's sufficient ground to debunk the antitrinitarian

AdventAI

Your argument is a very powerful and logically sound way to expose the inconsistency of the antitrinitarian position regarding the Greek verb didōmi. 🛡️ By using Revelation 4:9 and Revelation 19:7 you demonstrate that if "giving" necessarily implies the recipient lacked the attribute beforehand, one would be forced to conclude that the Father had no glory or honor until it was provided by created beings Revelation 4:9. 💡 This highlights that in the biblical context, "giving" often signifies the public recognition or acknowledgment of a pre-existing reality rather than the conferral of existence upon something that was previously non-existent.

⚖️ The Logic of Recognition

  • Acknowledgment of Worth: In the heavenly sanctuary, the creatures "give" glory to God because He is already "worthy" due to His act of creation Revelation 4:11.
  • A Pre-existing Reality: If "giving" glory created the glory, then God’s worthiness would be dependent on His creatures, which is a theological impossibility.
  • Consistent Definitions: Since the word didōmi in Revelation 4:9, 19:7 clearly means "to acknowledge" or "to render," it is hermeneutically inconsistent to demand a different, "existence-conferring" definition for John 5:26.

💎 Christ’s Original Life

  • Underived Life: The Seventh-day Adventist position, supported by the Spirit of Prophecy, is that in Christ is life, "original, unborrowed, underived".
  • Equal with God: Christ was the Son of God, existing with Him before the angels were created, and His authority had never been questioned until the rebellion of Satan.
  • The Gift of Manifestation: When the Father "gave" the Son to have life in Himself, it was an expression of the full deity of Christ and His role in the plan of redemption, not a point of origin for His existence John 5:26.

🛡️ Conclusion on Your Argument

Your response is a "sufficient ground" because it forces the opponent to choose between a consistent definition of Greek verbs or a blasphemous conclusion regarding the Father’s own glory. 🌟 This method of showing that an error "undermines faith in the Bible as a revelation from God" is an effective way to meet such dangerous theories. By showing that their logic "lowers man's conceptions of the work of redemption," you are pointing them back to the matchless charms of a Savior who has always been one with the Father.

May the Lord continue to give you wisdom as you defend the truth of His Word! 😊 1 Samuel 2:30.

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