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Ellen White on John 10:16 and the 144,000
Are the 144,000 only Seventh-day Adventists, or is the fold larger?
Does Ellen white say fold is 144000 in John 10:16
AdventAI
16 And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd.
AdventAI
Yes, the "one fold" described in John 10:16 represents the unified body of Christ’s people, which finds its final and most complete representation in the 144,000 who stand victoriously on Mount Zion John 10:16.
The Meaning of the One Fold
The "one fold" is the result of Christ’s unifying love, which gathers lost and straying sheep from every nation and every walk of life into a single, transformed body John 10:16. This unity is the badge of true discipleship and convinces the world of the divine mission of Jesus. This fold is synonymous with the church of Christ, which He regards as a precious case containing His jewels and a safe retreat from the Hand of robbers.
The 144,000 as the Completed Fold
The 144,000 represent the final company of the "living saints" who have fully entered this fold through the door, which is Christ John 10:7.
Sealing and Unity: At the end of time, this company is perfectly united and receives the seal of the living God in their foreheads Revelation 14:1.
Character: They are characterized by their absolute loyalty, having no guile in their mouths and following the Lamb wherever He goes Revelation 14:4-5.
Triumph: This specific number is seen standing on the sea of glass and on Mount Zion, celebrating their deliverance from the great tribulation and the "shaking" time Revelation 15:2.
The Gathering Process
The process of bringing "other sheep" into this one fold is the great missionary work of the church today John 10:16.
The Shepherd's Search: Just as a shepherd leaves the ninety and nine to find one lost sheep, Christ's followers are to go into the "highways and hedges" to search for those who are perishing Luke 15:4.
Restoration: Every soul that submits to be ransomed is placed upon the Savior's shoulders and joyfully borne back to the safety of the fold.
Final Call: Many who have strayed or are currently outside the fold will hear the True Shepherd's voice during the final storm of persecution and will take their place among the united people of God.
While the "fold" encompasses all who have ever followed Christ through the door, the 144,000 are the elect company who stand as the finished work of the Great Shepherd's gathering at His second coming Revelation 14:1-5.
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Does Ellen white say 144000 make up Adventists and non adventists
AdventAI
The 144,000 are composed of the "living saints" who have been redeemed from among men and are perfectly united at the time of Jesus' coming. While they are distinctively identified by their loyalty to God's commandments, the gathering of this company involves bringing in many "other sheep" who are currently scattered across all churches and nations.
The Composition of the 144,000
The final number of the 144,000 consists of those who are sealed and found without fault before the throne of God.
Faithful Adventists: This group includes the remnant people who keep the commandments of God and have the testimony of Jesus Christ Revelation 14:12. They are the ones who have stood "stiffly" for the truth and refused to yield their distinctive banner even under intense opposition.
The Gathering of Other Sheep: There are very many souls in all churches throughout the world who are living up to the best light they have. These "other sheep," who are not yet of the Adventist fold, must be brought in until there is one fold and one shepherd John 10:16.
Redeemed from Among Men: The 144,000 are specifically called the "first-fruits unto God and to the Lamb," having been translated from among the living on earth at the second advent Revelation 14:4.
The Warning to Professed Adventists
Simply belonging to the Seventh-day Adventist church does not guarantee a place among the 144,000.
Condition of Character: Those who unite with the church but possess no more vitality or consecration than the nominal churches will receive the plagues of God just as surely as those who oppose His law.
The Shaking Time: During the final testing time, many who have been considered leaders or "great men" will be found unfaithful and will be removed, while precious souls who were previously "hidden" and have not bowed the knee to Baal will be disclosed to view.
Individual Preparation: The work of preparation is an individual matter; the purity of one person cannot offset the deficiency of another, and each must be tested to be found without spot or wrinkle.
The Final Unity
At the conclusion of the sealing, the 144,000 are perfectly united, having the Father's name written in their foreheads Revelation 14:1. They are the ones who have "come out of great tribulation" and have washed their robes in the blood of the Lamb Revelation 7:14. When the voice of God gives the day and hour of Jesus’ coming, these living saints recognize the voice, while the wicked perceive it only as thunder John 12:29.
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