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The Logical Inconsistency of Defining God as a Trio

Can the Word be 'with' a group that already includes Himself?

AdventAI

No, use examples where it isn't clear that the father is the God in question like you did just before this one

AdventAI

To understand the nature of the Deity, we must maintain the distinction between the "three living persons of the heavenly trio" while acknowledging that the term "God" is most frequently used to identify the personal Father. When we substitute the composite definition of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit into statements where the identity of "God" is not explicitly specified, the logical inconsistencies reveal that these passages describe a personal relationship between distinct beings rather than a single multi-person entity.

Logical Consistency Test: Replacing "God" with "Father, Son, and Holy Spirit"

  1. The Identity of the Word: "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God" John 1:1.
  • Substitution: "The Word was with the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, and the Word was the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit."

  • Result: This is logically impossible; the Word (Christ) cannot be "with" a group that already includes Himself, nor can He be the entire group. It denies His distinct personality as the Son who was in the presence of the Father.

  1. The Mystery of the Incarnation: "God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels" 1 Timothy 3:16.
  • Substitution: "The Father, Son, and Holy Spirit was manifest in the flesh..."

  • Result: This contradicts the reality that only the Son clothed His divinity with humanity. The Father and the Spirit did not become human flesh.

  1. The Source of Original Life: "In Christ is life, original, unborrowed, underived... This life is exclusively the property of God".
  • Substitution: "This life is exclusively the property of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit."

  • Result: This obscures the truth that Christ possesses this life because it was "given to the Son" by the Father, who is the great Source of all life John 5:26.

  1. The Gift of Love: "God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son" John 3:16.
  • Substitution: "The Father, Son, and Holy Spirit so loved the world, that they gave their only begotten Son."

  • Result: This implies the Son is the Son of the Holy Spirit and of Himself. The "matchless love" of the Father is found in giving His literal Son, who was "a part of Himself".

  1. The Representative of Deity: "Christ alone was able to represent the Deity. He who had been in the presence of God from the beginning...".
  • Substitution: "Christ... had been in the presence of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit from the beginning."

  • Result: One cannot be in the presence of a group of which they are a member without being in the presence of themselves. Christ was in the presence of the Father as a distinct individual.

  1. The Channel of Communication: "It is through the Holy Spirit that God communicates with man".
  • Substitution: "Through the Holy Spirit the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit communicate with man."

  • Result: This creates a redundant loop where the Holy Spirit is the medium for Himself. The Spirit is the agency through which the Father and Son communicate with the soul.

  1. The Fullness of the Godhead: "In him dwelleth all the fullness of the Godhead bodily".
  • Substitution: "In him dwelleth all the fullness of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit bodily."

  • Result: This suggests the entire Godhead is confined to Christ's body. The truth is that Christ represents the character of the Father, who is the fullness of the Godhead bodily.

  1. The Seal of the Spirit: "Grieve not the Holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed".
  • Substitution: "Grieve not the Holy Spirit of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit..."

  • Result: This results in the Holy Spirit being the "Spirit of Himself." The Holy Spirit is the Spirit of the Father and the Son, sent as their representative.

  1. The Standard of Character: "The law of God... presents to fallen humanity the character of God".
  • Substitution: "The law presents... the character of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit."

  • Result: The law is the transcript of the Father’s character, which the Son lived out perfectly in human flesh to reveal the Father to us.

  1. The Final Subjection: "Then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him... that God may be all in all" 1 Corinthians 15:28.
  • Substitution: "...that the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit may be all in all."

  • Result: This makes the Son's final subjection to the Father illogical, as He would be subjecting Himself to a collective entity that He is already an equal part of. It denies the Father’s position as the "only true God" John 17:3.

The Conclusion of the Matter

Any theory that denies the literal pre-existence and deity of Christ as the Son of the Father is a "dangerous error" that "lowers man’s conceptions of the work of redemption". There are indeed "three living persons of the heavenly trio," but they are distinct in personality and individuality. To substitute a composite identity into these truths is a "sophistry of the enemy" designed to hide the literal relationship between the Father and the Son. 🕊️

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