Signs of the Times, Vol. 3, No. 33. (8/23/1877)

Signs of the Times

Aug 23, 1877

Pacific Seventh-day Adventist Publishing Association · Oakland, California · Aug 23, 1877

UNITY AND PERSONALITY OF GOD.

By Dudley Marvin Canright

BY ELDER D. M. CARRIGHT.

GOD IS A REAL PERSON—CONTINUED.

Another convincing proof that God is a real person, having a form and parts, is the fact that man is said to have been made in the image of God, in the form of God.

“And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness; . . . So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.” Gen. 1:26, 27. If man was made in the image and likeness of God, then we know how God looks, what shape he has; he is the shape of man. A poor evasion is attempted here, by asserting that it is the spirit of man that is in the image of God. But the text says no such thing. It says, “Let us make man in our image,” then the very next thing it tells how this was done. “And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground.” Gen. 2:7. Of what did God form man? It is directly said that he was formed of the dust of the ground. Very well then, that which was formed of the dust of the ground is in the image of God, for so it says. Gen. 9:6 confirms this fact. “Whoso sheddeth man’s blood, by man shall his blood be shed; for in the image of God made he man.”

If a man killed a dog was he to die for that? No; but if he shed the blood of a man he must die for that. The reason is stated, “For in the image of God made he man,” &c., he has killed and destroyed that which is made in the image of God. Now the question is, What has he killed? Not an immortal spirit or soul, but the body, that which had blood, that which was in the image of God. Hence it is the body which is in the image of God. Image and likeness are thus defined by Webster:—

“Image, n. 1. A representation or similitude of any person or thing formed of a material substance; as, an image wrought out of stone, wood, or wax. 2. A statue.” Its meaning then is plain. It is a representation of something else in the same form. “Likeness, n. Resemblance in form; similitude. The picture is a good likeness of the original. 2. Resemblance; form, external appearance. 3. One that resembles another, a copy, a counterpart.” Plainly, then, an image or likeness is that which is in the form of, and looks like, that which it is to represent. Man is in the image and likeness of God; hence God has a body in form like a man.

Let us now come to the Bible and find the meaning of the word image as it is there used. It will be found that every time it refers to something that has a form, real substance, and a shape.

“Ye shall make you no idols nor graven image, neither rear you up a standing image, neither shall ye set up any image of stone in your land, to bow down unto it; for I am the Lord your God.” Lev. 26:1. “And Michal took an image, and laid it in the bed.” 1 Sam. 19:13. “And he set a carved image, the idol which he had made, in the house of God.” 2 Chron. 33:7. “Thou, O king, sawest, and behold a great image. This great image, whose brightness was excellent, stood before thee; and the form thereof was terrible.” Dan. 2:31. “Nebuchadnezzar the king made an image of gold, whose height was threescore cubits, and the breadth thereof six cubits.” Dan. 3:1. “And he saith unto them, Whose is this image and superscription?” Matt. 22:20. “Ye men of Athens, what man is there that knoweth not how that the city of the Ephesians is a worshiper of the great goddess Diana, and of the image which fell down from Jupiter?” Acts 19:35. “I have reserved to myself seven thousand men, who have not bowed the knee to the image of Baal.” Rom. 11:4.

“Saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.” Rev. 13:14.

“Wherefore ye shall make images of your emerods, and images of your mice that mar the land.” 1 Sam. 6:5.

“For when she saw men portrayed upon the wall, the images of the Chaldeans portrayed with vermilion.” Eze. 23:14.

“Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.” Ex. 20:4.

All these texts abundantly show that an image in the Bible means that which has a real form and shape. Man is made in the image of God—the man that was made of the dust too. Gen. 2:7.

“God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh.” Rom. 8:3.

Here we have it definitely stated what part of man constitutes the likeness. “Sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh.” It is in the flesh, then, in which the likeness consists. Phil. 2:5–8 is absolutely decisive upon this point. “Let this mind be in you which was also in Christ Jesus, who being in the form of God.” Here we stop and ask how Christ could be in the form of God, if God had no form? But Jesus was in the form of God; hence the argument is conclusive that God has a form. “Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God, but made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant [man], and was made in the likeness of man; and being found in fashion as a man he humbled himself,” &c. Here it is declared that Christ was in the form of God, in the form of a servant, in the likeness of man, in the fashion of man. We know that this was his physical body; for Christ was both in the form of God, and in the form of man. Then God and man are both of the same form.

Again, of Jesus Paul says, “Who being the brightness of his glory and the express image of his person.” Heb. 1:3. It is the person of God, then, of which Jesus was the image. Then God has a person. Now what is the meaning of the word person? It seems that on so simple a word as this there could be no mistake. It does not, and cannot mean an immaterial, intangible, shapeless, formless essence. It always means an intelligent being, having a body, shape and form.

Again we appeal to the word of God. Let us carefully read a few plain scriptures where the word person is used; and it will be seen that it always means an individual, with an organized shape and form.

“Give me the persons, and take the goods to thyself.” Gen. 14:21. “And a clean person shall take hyssop, and dip it in the water, and sprinkle it upon the tent, and upon all the vessels, and upon the persons that were there.” Num. 19:18. “And he slew his brethren the sons of Jerubbaal, being threescore and ten persons.” Judges 9:5.

“I have seen a son of Jesse, a comely person.” 1 Sam. 16:18. “And Doeg the Edomite turned, and he fell upon the priests, and slew on that day fourscore and five persons that did wear a linen ephod.” 1 Sam. 22:18.

“Wicked men have slain a righteous person in his own house upon his bed.” 2 Sam. 4:11. “That thou go to battle in thine own person.” 2 Sam. 17:11. “Likewise the fool and the brutish person perish.” Ps. 49:10.

“There was not one feeble person among their tribes,” Ps. 105:37. “A man that doeth violence to the blood of any person shall flee to the pit.” Prov. 28:17.

“And every person that Nebuzar-adan the captain of the guard had left.” Jer. 43:6. “He carried away captive from Jerusalem eight hundred thirty and two persons.” Jer. 52:29.

“Thou wast cast out in the open field, to the loathing of thy person, in the day that thou wast born.” Eze. 16:5. “And they shall come at no dead person.” Eze. 44:25.

“For thou regardest not the person of men.” Matt. 22:16. “I am innocent of the blood of this just person.” Matt. 27:24.

“Therefore put away from among yourselves that wicked person.” 1 Cor. 5:13. “But saved Noah the eighth person.” 2 Pet. 2:5.

So we find by these passages what the Bible means by the word person. It is in no single case a being without body, parts, passions, etc. Now the Bible after using the word person hundreds of times in the sense indicated above, says that God is a person. We believe it, and are willing to leave it right there.

OBJECTIONS CONSIDERED.

The objections to this doctrine are very few and readily answered.

1. God fills heaven and earth. “Am I a God at hand, saith the Lord, and not a God afar off? Can any hide himself in secret places that I shall not see him? saith the Lord. Do not I fill heaven and earth? saith the Lord.” Jer. 23:23, 24.

“Now,” says one, “if God fills heaven and earth, then he must be everywhere, in one place as much as in another. And besides that, he cannot be a material being having a body and form, for if he were, his body filling heaven and earth would exclude all other bodies.” It is strange that sensible men will raise so foolish an objection as this. Let us try their view of it. They say that God is an immaterial spirit, and fills heaven and earth. Very well, then this must exclude all other spirits, for just as truly as no two material bodies can occupy the same place at once, so two spirits cannot occupy the same place at once.

They reason that if God is a material being and fills heaven and earth, then he would exclude all other material beings from the universe. And their conclusion is right. So we reason just as legitimately that if God, as a spirit, absolutely and in the full sense of the word fills heaven and earth, then this would exclude all other spirits, and there would be neither angels nor wicked spirits, nor the spirits of men anywhere in the universe! But both these conclusions we know to be untrue. What, then, is the truth? Simply this: That when the Lord says, I fill heaven and earth, it is to be understood in a certain qualified sense, as explained by other scriptures. We must not make a single strong metaphor like this contradict the hundreds of direct declarations that God has a form, shape, body and local habitation, that he sits upon a throne, is in heaven and not upon earth, &c. When God says he fills heaven and earth, other scriptures explain this to mean that heaven and earth and hell, and all parts of the universe, are open and naked before the eyes of God, and that nothing is hid from his sight; that he sees everything just as clearly and distinctly as though it were right in his immediate presence. The very text itself indicates this. Read it again carefully. “Can any hide himself in secret places that I cannot see him? saith the Lord.” There is the point. No man can hide himself anywhere so that God cannot see him. With this thought the Lord adds, “Do not I fill heaven and earth?” But how? absolutely, personally? No, for this is not true, neither in fact nor in the teachings of the Bible. Read a few other scriptures. “Neither is there any creature that is not manifest in his sight; but all things are naked and opened unto the eyes of him with whom we have to do.” Heb. 4:13. Here we have an explanation of what this means. All things are open and naked before the eyes of God. “Great in counsel, and mighty in work; for thine eyes are open upon all the ways of the sons of men, to give every one according to his ways, and according to the fruit of his doings.” Jer. 32:19. This states the same fact again: The eyes of the Lord “are open upon all the ways of the sons of men.”

Psalms 139:1–12 is a beautiful expression of this whole subject. “O Lord, thou hast searched me, and known me. Thou knowest my downsitting and mine uprising, thou understandest my thought afar off. Thou compassest my path and my lying down, and art acquainted with all my ways. For there is not a word in my tongue, but, lo, O Lord, thou knowest it altogether. Thou hast beset me behind and before, and laid thine hand upon me. Such knowledge is too wonderful for me; it is high, I cannot attain unto it. Whither shall I go from thy spirit? or whither shall I flee from thy presence? If I ascend up into heaven, thou art there; if I make my bed in hell, behold, thou art there. If I take the wings of the morning and dwell in the uttermost parts of the sea; even there shall thy hand lead me, and thy right hand shall hold me. If I say, Surely the darkness shall cover me; even the night shall be light about me. Yea, the darkness hideth not from thee; but the night shineth as the day; the darkness and the light are both alike to thee.”

How beautifully the Psalmist expresses the thought that God sees and knows all his ways, understands every word he speaks, knows his thoughts afar off, that neither in heaven nor earth, nor in hell, can he hide himself from God. The deepest darkness is as light as the day to God. God sees him everywhere and all the time. In this sense, and this only, is God everywhere present. Reader, is God personally present in the room where you are sitting now? You know he is not. If he were you would not live a moment. Read what the Bible says of the wonderful majesty, the burning glory, the devouring fire which surrounds the immediate presence of the Almighty. Could you stand in such a presence as that as calmly as you do now? Whatever our creeds may say, in our very souls we know better.

2. God is a spirit. “God is a spirit; and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.” John 4:24.

There, says the objector, if God is a spirit then he cannot be a material person, having a form, and body. Yes, indeed! Where did they learn all that? Who says that a spirit is not a person? Who says that a spirit has no form, no body, no substance? That is all assumption. It assumes the very thing to be proved. This we deny, and maintain that a real spirit is just as much a person, having shape, body, and form, as a man. This we can readily prove. Angels are called spirits. “Are they not all ministering spirits?” Heb. 1:14. Yet these angels are real persons, as you know by the whole tenor of the Bible. Angels came to Abraham, sat in his tent, and ate of his bread. Gen. 18. Angels went to Lot, took hold of his hand, ate at his table. Gen. 19. Angels have bodies, wings, faces, hands and feet. Isa. 6:1–4. They have frequently been seen, and talked with. An angel came to Daniel. Gabriel came to Mary and to Elizabeth. One came to Peter in prison. John fell at the feet of an angel to worship him. Are they not persons? Do they not have form and shape? or are they simply an essence filling the universe, being in no place in particular? Nonsense; every reader of the Bible knows better.

Where Is Thy God?

By R. Smith

“My tears have been my meat day and night, while they continually say unto me, Where is thy God?” Ps. 42:3.

Through day and night my tears have been my meat, Anguish and grief there find a blest retreat; The spirit crushed, the heart with anguish riven, Almost forgets there will be rest in heaven.

Dear loved ones sleeping—sympathy, oh, where? Is there no one who will our sorrows share? The flowing streamlet, and the murmuring rill, In ocean find a kindred spirit still.

Do tears oft say, Oh! where is now thy God? Submit to this and every chastening rod. I'd calmly yield to every needed ill, And learn to bear God's visitation still.

Not unaccustomed to the galling yoke, Though oft uncalled for, I would bear each stroke; Though wet with tears my pillow oft may be, Still to the Lord for succor will I flee. —R. Smith.

THE BIBLICAL INSTITUTE.

By Uriah Smith

HELD IN OAKLAND, CAL., APRIL 1–17, 1877.

[In this form we give a synopsis of the lectures presented at this Institute, the aim being to give principal facts, dates and references, with as few words as will serve to connect them. The lessons are not intended to measure the recitations. A lesson embraces an entire subject; but some of these occupied a number of recitations in the class.]

LESSON FOURTEEN.

DESTINY OF THE WICKED.

We have now examined all the more important texts that are supposed to teach the consciousness of the dead between death and the resurrection, or such as are used as objections to the view that man has not by nature an immortal soul. With a brief examination of the positive testimony of the Scriptures on this point we shall pass to the other branch of the subject, namely, the destiny of the wicked.

The sentence which God pronounced upon transgression in the garden of Eden was death. “In the day that thou eatest thereof, thou shalt surely die.” After Adam had sinned and the sentence was to be put into execution, God addressed Adam thus: In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread, till thou return unto the ground; for out of it wast thou taken; for dust thou art and unto dust shalt thou return.”

What part of Adam was addressed by this language? Was it the body or the soul? We are told that the soul is the intelligent, responsible part of man, that incurs guilt by transgression and is entitled to reward for obedience. But that part which did transgress was addressed in this sentence; and the personal pronouns, thou and thy, are five times used in addressing this sentence to Adam. Certainly this must have been the intelligent, responsible man, and the sentence pronounced upon it was, “Dust thou art and unto dust shalt thou return.”

If it is said that this refers simply to the body, then we ask if the same personal pronoun thou used by Christ in his address to the thief on the cross, meant simply his body. If it did not there, it does not here. Our friends must be consistent in their interpretation of the Scriptures.

The penalty pronounced upon Adam, in which we are all involved, can therefore be understood in no other way than as meaning the reduction of the real responsible man to the dust of the ground, to a condition of utter unconsciousness.

There is another doctrine taught in the Scriptures which has an important bearing upon this question, and that is the resurrection of the dead. It is over and over again stated in the word of God, that there is to be a resurrection of the dead. But what need is there of this, if the soul exists in a conscious, intelligent condition without the body?

William Tyndale says: “And ye in putting them (souls) in heaven, hell and purgatory, destroy the argument wherewith Christ and Paul prove the resurrection.”

Andrew Carmichael (Theology of the Scripture, Vol. 2, p. 315) says: “It cannot be too often repeated: If there be an immortal soul, there is no resurrection; and if there be any resurrection, there is no immortal soul.”

Dr. Muller (Christian Doctrine of Sin, p. 318) says: “The Christian faith in immortality is indissolubly connected with a promise of a future resurrection of the dead.”

Again, death is compared to sleep, and there must be some analogy between the state of sleep and the state of death. And this analogy must pertain to that which renders sleep a peculiar condition. Our condition in sleep differs from our condition when awake simply in this, that when we are soundly asleep we are entirely unconscious. In this respect then, death is like sleep, that is, the dead are unconscious, and without the resurrection they will forever remain so.

Speaking of the dead man Job says, 14:21: “His sons come to honor and he knoweth it not, and they are brought low and he perceiveth it not of them.” David says, Psalm 146:4: “His breath goeth forth, he returneth to his earth; in that very day his thoughts perish.” Solomon spoke to the same effect as his father David, Ecclesiastes 9:5, 6: “For the living know that they shall die; but the dead know not anything; also their love, and their hatred, and their envy, is now perished; neither have they any more a portion forever in anything that is done under the sun.” Verse 10: “There is no work, nor device, nor knowledge, nor wisdom in the grave, whither thou goest.” Evidence like this can neither be mistaken nor evaded. It is vain for the immaterialist to claim that this applies to the body only in distinction from the soul, for they do not hold that the body of itself thinks or has knowledge while the person lives. Therefore without a resurrection the dead will forever remain without knowledge.

The dead are not in Heaven nor in hell, but in the dust of the earth. Job 17:13–16; 14:14; Isa. 26:19.

The dead have no remembrance of God, and do not, while dead, render him praise and thanksgiving; Proof: Ps. 6:5; 115:17; Isa. 38:18, 19.

The dead have not yet ascended to Heaven. Acts 2:29, 34, 35.

And finally Paul in his masterly argument on the resurrection, 1 Cor. 15:18, makes this conclusive statement: “If the dead rise not, then is not Christ raised; and if Christ be not raised, your faith is vain; ye are yet in your sins. Then they also which are fallen asleep in Christ are perished.” If the souls of the dead live right on are they perished? What! perished and yet alive in a larger sphere? Perished? and yet enjoying the attendant blessings of everlasting life in Heaven? Perished? and yet at God’s right hand, where there is fullness of joy and pleasures forevermore?

Bishop Law says—

“I proceed to consider what account the Scriptures give of that state to which death reduces us; and this we find represented by sleep; by a negation of all life and action; by rest, resting-place, or home, silence, oblivion, darkness, destruction and corruption.”

Christ says, John 6:39, that of all that was given him, he would lose nothing, but would raise it up at the last day, showing again that it was lost unless it should be raised up at the last day.

It is thus seen that the two doctrines of the immortality of the soul and the resurrection of the dead cannot exist together; but the Bible does sustain the resurrection of the dead, and, as we may therefore expect, gives no countenance to the other.

There is still another doctrine of the Scriptures which has as decisive a bearing upon this question as the preceding, and that is the doctrine of a future Judgment for man. If men when they die go directly to Heaven or hell, accordingly as they have lived righteous or wicked lives, it follows that they are all judged at death. Then we ask, What necessity is there for this general future Judgment which is made so prominent a doctrine of the Bible? Is it for the purpose of correcting mistakes that may have been made in the first judgment? Can it be supposed that some have been in hell who ought to have been in Heaven, and some in Heaven who ought to have been in hell, and that this Judgment is to correct these mistakes? If not, why have this Judgment at all? And if so, what guarantee have we that mistakes will not be made in this final Judgment, and some be sent to hell for all eternity who should be in Heaven, and some retained in Heaven who are deserving of the punishment of hell? Such must be our conclusion if we hold to the doctrine of the immortality of the soul; but such a conclusion is a libel upon the government of God and an insult to the justice of Heaven.

Luke 24:39. “For a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have.”

From this definition of a spirit by Christ, it is concluded that a spirit cannot be a real, tangible being, and hence must exist in the disembodied state as popularly supposed. But to what did Christ have reference by the term spirit? What did the apostles suppose they had seen? The 37th verse says they were affrighted and supposed they had seen a spirit. On this verse Griesbach puts for the word spirit, phantasma; but the meaning of phantasma is an apparition, a ghost. It is evident that Christ used the term spirit in the same sense. Not that there was any spirit of that kind, but he wanted to show them that such a spirit as they conceived of was not then present before them; for such a spirit had not flesh and bones as they saw him have. The word pneuma, to be sure, is here used; but this has a great variety of meanings and while it may be employed, perhaps, to express such a conception as the disciples had then in mind, we are not to understand that the word cannot be used to describe bodies like that which Christ then possessed. Bloomfield on this verse says: “It may be added that our Lord meant not to countenance these notions, but to show his hearers that according to their own notions of spirits, he was not one.”

Acts 23:8. “For the Sadducees say that there is no resurrection, neither angel, nor spirit; but the Pharisees confess both.” Paul declared himself in verse 6 to be a Pharisee, and in telling what they believed, in verse 8, it is claimed that Paul ranged himself on the side of those who believe in the separate, conscious existence of the spirit of man. But does this text say that the Pharisees believed in such a thing? Three terms are here used in expressing what the Sadducees did not believe; namely, “resurrection, angel and spirit.” But when the faith of the Pharisees is stated, these three terms are reduced to two: the Pharisees confess both. Both means only two, not three. Now what two of the three terms before employed unite to express one branch of the faith of the Pharisees? The word angel could not be one, for the angels are a distinct race of beings from the human family. Then we have left, resurrection and spirit. The Pharisees believe in angels, and in the resurrection. Then, all the spirit they believed in, according to this testimony, is what is connected with the resurrection, and that, of course, is the spiritual body with which we are endowed. If any who say that the word both sometimes means more than two, and quote Acts 1:13 as proof, we reply, that the word both in Acts 1:13, is not the same word translated both in Acts 23:8. The word both here means just two, no more nor less.

CLASS QUESTIONS ON LESSON XIV., WITH ANSWERS.

1. Ecclesiastes 9:5. “The dead know not anything, neither have they any more a reward. How do you reconcile this with the scripture that says that ‘the righteous shall be recompensed in the earth, much more the wicked and the sinner?’” Prov. 11:31.

Ans. Ecclesiastes 9:5 does not refer to the time of future rewards and punishments, but to this present dispensation. The dead know not anything, and have no reward during this state of being, till the close of probation; but the passage quoted from Proverbs does have reference to the future reward and punishment of the righteous and the wicked after probation is closed. Hence there is no discrepancy between these passages.

2. In 1 Thess. 5:23, are the words “soul and spirit” identical?

Ans. We think not. The expression “body, soul and spirit” is to be taken as a description of the whole man with his physical, mental and emotional natures, soul and spirit in this instance signifying the mental and emotional part of man’s nature. But how would the immaterialist explain this? According to his vocabulary the soul means the immortal part of man, and spirit also means the immortal part. Has man two immortal parts in his nature?

3. What became of those saints that came out of their graves after Christ’s resurrection, as recorded in Matt. 27:52, 53?

Ans. The only definite record we have of them is that they went into the holy city and appeared unto many; but Paul makes use of an expression from which we infer that they ascended to Heaven with Christ. For, speaking of his ascension in Ephesians 4:8, he says: “When he ascended up on high, he led captivity captive, and gave gifts unto men.” The margin reads, “a multitude of captives.” Who could these captives be except those who came out of their graves after the resurrection of Christ? We therefore conclude that they are now with Christ in Heaven, represented by the four living creatures and the four and twenty elders of the book of Revelation; for they declare that they have been redeemed from the earth. Rev. 5:9.

4. Is the word grave in Ecclesiastes 9:10 from sheol?

Ans. Yes.

5. How do you reconcile Matt. 22:32 with Rom. 14:9?

Ans. Matt. 22:32 reads, “God is not the God of the dead, but of the living,” and Rom. 14:9 reads, “For to this end Christ both died, and rose, and revived, that he might be Lord both of the dead and of the living.” There is nothing here to reconcile, because the passages refer to different things. Matthew has reference to the future living again of those who are in their graves; while Romans speaks of that work of Christ which enables him to bring salvation to the dead as well as to the living; and in that sense he is Lord of both.

6. Does Romans 5:14 prove that the reign of death was broken at the resurrection of Moses?

Ans. The passage reads as follows: “Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses;” but death was not the subject upon which Paul was here speaking, but the existence of law and the effects of law. “Sin is not imputed,” he says, “when there is no law. Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses,” proving thereby that the law was in existence, and mankind were held amenable to it. Therefore the obligations of the moral law, or ten commandments, were not introduced with the Mosaic dispensation; for their existence is proved even from the time of Adam.

7. Did Christ have “life in himself” before he came down from Heaven? If so, how could an immortal being die?

Ans. We think he did. An immortal being is one which is exempt from death. Such was Christ before his advent to this world; but he could lay off his immortality, and take upon him our nature. How he could do this, is not for us to try to explain; for this is one of those mysteries of godliness of which Paul speaks, which are beyond the comprehension of man. 1 Tim. 3:16.

8. 1 John 3:15 seems to contain an inference that some have eternal life abiding in them which

contradicts Rom. 2:7, and Col. 3:3, 4. Please harmonize the above.

Ans. The eternal life which we now have abiding in us, we have by faith. John, in his first epistle, 5:11, confirms this. He says, “And this is the record that God hath given to us eternal life.” And where is this life? Is it now in us? Do we yet have it in possession? No; but John adds, “This life is in his Son.” Now, Rom. 2:7, and Col. 3:3, 4 do not contradict this; for they speak of that absolute possession of eternal life which we will have beyond the resurrection.

9. Acts 17:28. “For in him we live, and move, and have our being.” How do we live, and move, and have our being in God? Can it not here be claimed that the soul is a part of God, and hence immortal?

Ans. Paul speaks here of our relation to God as created beings; for, to confirm this declaration which he makes, that we live, move, and have our being in him, he immediately adds, “For we are also his offspring.” That is to say, all the life which we have, even our present, temporal, immortal life, we have from God; but this has no bearing upon the question whether we have a principle within us that can never die.

10. Please explain Rev. 6:11. What is meant by their waiting a little season after the white robes were given them?

Ans. Although the spirit of persecution was restrained by the work of Reformation which gave white robes to those martyrs, yet it was not entirely suppressed. In many countries, especially in England, as the Catholic party occasionally gained the ascendency in the nation, terrible persecutions were the result, and many were put to death. But this was to last only for a little season, and we are now happily beyond that period when men are put to death on account of their faith.

11. 1 Pet. 3:20. “Which sometime were disobedient.” Shall we understand by this that they were disobedient only at times?

Ans. The word is “sometime,” and not sometimes; and it does not mean at different intervals of time, but at that particular time. They were at that time disobedient, that is while Noah was preaching to them.

12. 1 Pet. 3:19. Is not the prison here referred to, the prison-house of the grave?

Ans. We think not, inasmuch as the scripture seems to represent that the preaching was done to those spirits while they were in prison; hence they could not have been in their grave; but the time referred to must be while they were yet alive; therefore we take the word “prison” in this instance, to refer to their peculiar condition, they being shut up under the wrath of God, and their days limited to a hundred and twenty years.

13. Spiritualists, who claim that there is a part of God in everything, sometimes quote 1 Cor. 15:38, basing all on the pronoun his.

Ans. The passage reads, “But God giveth it a body as it hath pleased him, and to every seed his own body.” This does not mean that God has given to every seed a part of his (God’s) own body, but the pronoun “his” there refers to the seed, and might be rendered its own body, or the body belonging to it, as peculiarly its own, in distinction from the body of other seeds.

14. “Does not the Jew believe in an intermediate state, that is entered on immediately at death? and do they not call it Paradise? If so, would not the words of Christ addressed to the thief leave the impression on the minds of those that heard him, that that was the Paradise to which he referred?”

We have another question involving so nearly the same point that we present them together. It is this:—

“Is it not true that the Jews believed in the conscious state of the dead? If so, did not Christ give assent to the doctrine by his silence on the subject in the parable of the rich man and Lazarus?”

Ans. On the point involved in these two questions which is chiefly, What did the Jews believe on these questions, we offer the following thoughts from Eld. J. H. Waggoner:—

“The question is almost always put thus, Do the Jews believe? &c., but an answer to this question is of no interest so far as the subject is concerned. The truth is the Jews now believe almost everything. The “Reform” Jews, as they call themselves, are infidels; they have no belief in the Bible. The orthodox Jews of the present day are restorationists, believing in the ultimate salvation of all. But they believe in a hell or purgatory where the righteous are confined four weeks, and the wicked eleven months, before their restoration. They also believe in the transmigration of souls, with many other vagaries. These beliefs are the outgrowth of their traditions, which are gathered from various sources. There are few people more superstitious than the Jews of the present day.”

“We are convinced that it is not possible to ascertain at this day what traditional views the Jews held in the time of the Saviour. The best informed Jews do not pretend to know; they do not think it can be known. They have but one reliable source of information on such subjects, namely, the sacred Scriptures. Outside of these they may have imbibed other views from the nations with which they held intercourse, but of them we cannot be certain, and they must have been as vague as we know the fancies of the heathen nations were.

“The searcher for truth on this subject is shut up to the writings of the prophets or writers of the Hebrew Scriptures. These were the models of the Jewish faith, so far as they had any tangible faith. And we have the confession of the most eminent men, both Jews and Christians, that the writings of the Old Testament give no countenance to the Platonic idea of the soul, or the heathen notions of hades. It is true the confession is not greatly needed, for every reader must be struck with the fact. Both Jesus and his apostles always appealed to “the Scriptures” as the source and ground of belief, and we think it is safe to conclude that what the Scriptures did not contain they did not enforce or sanction.

“The Hebrew sheol and the Greek hades represented a state of death, of darkness and silence, from which the resurrection alone was expected to deliver man. When Christ the Son of God died, we learn that his soul was not left in sheol, Ps. 16:10; hades, Acts 2:31; hell, Eng. Version. Now if the soul of the Saviour went to Paradise at death we are forced to conclude that Paradise is no other than the sheol of the Old Testament, the hades of the New, or the hell of our English rendering; and if so, then Paradise is a place of darkness, and silence, of no knowledge, for in this our Saviour’s soul was not left, nor did his body see corruption, the resurrection rescuing him therefrom.

“‘What say the Scriptures?’ ‘How readest thou?’ Here is our only source of light and truth. Now if the Saviour’s words can be explained in harmony with the teachings of the Scriptures we need look no further. We confidently say they can, and therefore rest without conjecturing what somebody else may have believed.” U. S.

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